So my first question is in regards to the fact that you’re kind of thrown into the Misfits as a teenager by association because of your brother, tell me what prompts you to become a member of the band.
Doyle: Of the Misfits?
Yes of the Misfits.
Doyle: They were recording an album and the guitar player didn’t show up and I would jam with those guys when he wouldn’t come to rehearsals so he didn’t show up and Glenn kinda didn’t like him so he was just like ‘fuck it, you play it’ and I was like alright and I played it. And I had all my stuff there because the guy was gonna use my stuff because it sounded better than his…so I did it.
And in 1982 the Misfits release ‘Walk Among Us’ which is one of my favorite albums ever- talk to me about making that album and ultimately touring on it.
Doyle: I don’t remember. I really don’t.
It was that long ago, huh…I wasn’t even alive yet.
Doyle: See, there ya go.
Well anyways everyone knows that the original lineup of the Misfits breaks up in the 80’s and everyone starts doing their own shit, so let’s talk about Kryst the Conqueror that you start.
Doyle: Let’s not.
Let’s talk about! You have to tell me about it.
Doyle: I do?
Doyle: Well what do you wanna know? You have to ask me a question because I’m not just gonna ramble.
What makes you want to start that?
Doyle: We just started it to learn how to write songs and work in a studio and do this and that. And that was our first shot at writing our own stuff.
And how was writing it, did you tour on that?
Doyle: No, no. I don’t think it ever came out.
My dad has a cassette of it, or so he tells me.
Doyle: Yes that came out but the actual album never did.
And now you’ve always been Doyle-
Doyle: That is true, that is true.
It is. But it wasn’t until Michael Graves joined the band that you add the ‘Wolfgang Von Frankenstein’ on to the end.
Doyle: Glenn wouldn’t put it on the record.
Well, then that answers my question.
Doyle: It was more work for him, I guess.
Now explain to me how the Misfits with Glenn and the Misfits with Michael differ.
Doyle: Well, one has Glenn in it and one doesn’t. That’s what I noticed, a big difference.
How was working with Michael versus working with Glenn?
Doyle: Michael’s difficult to work with.
More difficult than Glenn?
Doyle: Yeah. He’s very difficult; it’s hard to get him to do stuff. He’s kind of flaky. You know I’m not lying…I like working with him. (Points to Alex Story)
Do you like working with Doyle, Alex?
Alex: Of course, one of my best friends. I grew up being into the Misfits and stuff so it’s like he’s one of the only people I would work with because I’m difficult.
Doyle: You’re easy.
Alex: I wouldn’t wanna work with many people, I just do my own thing. But I always wanted to work with him.
Doyle: Two grumpy Gus’s makes zero grumpy Gus’s.
It’s like a double negative and then it all works out.
Doyle: Something like that, yeah. I don’t know the logistics of it.
Alex: I remember seeing an interview with him back when I was young and he was talking about how he didn’t give a fuck about being a musician or nothing, he just wanted to let people know that he hated them and stuff and I was like, I relate to that. I remember I had these old bootlegs like, back before the internet and stuff because I’m old, and you could get these VHS tapes of shows like the Misfits. And I remember every show he was like, el Kabonging somebody in the head with a fucking guitar and I was like I like this dude.
Doyle: That was all CGI.
Alex: We used to joke around back then because we would hear legends about the Misfits, that they were working in their dad’s shop in Jersey or whatever before they did the 90’s stuff so it was kind of like this legendary band. And we would always say we should go up there and find Doyle and start a band! I used to joke about it and then when I found out he was looking to start his own band I was like oh shit well I gotta do that because everyone else is gonna suck. And they did, so I had to do it.
In the 2000’s you do various different things, you work with Glenn for like 30 minutes a night in 2004.
Doyle: 30 minutes that would kill a mortal man.
How do you end up with that stipulation of playing a few songs?
Doyle: He had his personal assistant call me and said ‘Glenn wants to talk to you tomorrow, call him at the office at like one’ so I was like okay. So I called him up and he goes ‘do you wanna go play some shows with me?’ and I said yes I do. And then he said ‘I’m starting a label do you have a demo” and I said yes I do. He said ‘send it to me, if I like it I’ll put it out’, and then I just started playing with him.
And why’d you stop?
Doyle: Cause I wanted to do the Misfits. That’s why I stopped.
In the 2000’s you do that, you pursue Gorgeous Frankenstein and then in 2013 you release ‘Abominator’- tell me about making that record.
Doyle: Me and him just started writing. I called him up, he was walking into a Danzig show, ironically enough. I said I got a bunch of musical compositions, ‘cause once I write the music I can’t write the melody- I just can’t ‘cause I can see what I want and I just can’t I don’t know. So I said do you wanna write and he’s like yes, fuck yes send me everything and I sent him a couple songs and he sent them back in like a day or two and they were what you hear on the record. When they came back I was like oh my god this is fucking insane. Every time I would send him something and he would send it back I would get so excited because I would get the lyrics all written out with crazy drawings and shit on it and I’d put the headphones on and it would be like getting a song from your favorite band that nobody’s ever heard. Because once he sang on it I didn’t just hear me playing on it anymore, now it’s a song, you know? I’d just sit there and read it and go fucking nuts- like oh my god.
And tell me about the upcoming Doyle record, give me all the details.
Doyle: It’s coming out on the EMP label which is owned by Dave Ellefson of Megadeth, I was gonna say Megatron but that’s wrong, on June 2nd. It’s called ‘Doyle II’, like ‘Led Zeppelin II’, ‘Queen II’, ‘Kiss Alive II’, ‘Danzig II’- see where I’m going? ‘As We Die’, we missed the deadline it was supposed to come out of the fifth of May but were still working on the art still.
Alex: But it’s so good. It’s like everything that was good about the first album is better on this album. Plus we have Brandon- on the first album pretty much we used like a drum machine and stuff and it was a little stiff in that way. But this one we have a full band, we’ve got Brandon Pertzborn killing on the drums.
Doyle: Crushing it.
Alex: One of the best drummers there is. We’ve got Randy Blythe from Lamb of God singing on a track with me, we’ve got Alissa.
Doyle: And Michael Amott from Arch Enemy on the title track ‘Kiss Me As We Die’. It’s really good, it came out great.
Alex: It’s a great record. It’s a lot more dynamic, like with the first record…we’ve been writing for a while together trying to come up with our sound- mixing in a little punk, a little metal, a little doom and thrash and stuff and crossover kind of stuff. Once we kind of developed our sound with the first album we wanted to come out with all of our heavy hitters and just pound ‘em down, like really come out swinging the big dick on the first album.
Doyle: Yeah, like you do.
Alex: So now that we’ve done that we want to be a little more dynamic and there’s a lot more strange, kind of atmospheric composition, more gothic sensibilities and different things that we’re into. It’s just a lot more dynamic as an album; it’s all over the place. I think it stands up with some of my favorite records.
Doyle: We’ve been listening to it like crazy, one day just ten times in a row.
Is it weird listening to your own music?
Doyle: It’s great because we both write it so it’s like you didn’t write it, so you can actually listen to it.
Alex: He composes the music so I don’t even have to, like in my other band I have to write the music and do all this shit but with this band I don’t even have to think about the music. He composes the music and I just take it, cause I like what he does anyways, I just take that as it is and think about melody and atmosphere and lyrics and take what he’s already got an just showcase that and I think it comes together really good.
And what can someone coming to one of your shows expect to see setlist wise?
Doyle: Setlist wise? Ask Alex, he does that.
Alex: Right now, you know, it’s like because we’re still introducing people to the band because a lot of people didn’t even know he had a band. A lot of people are coming for nostalgia, like you would, they want to see Misfits songs so we oblige and we throw in some classic Misfits material played our way. And then we showcase what our band’s about with our material, and we throw in some surprises here and there but this is a live band first and foremost. It’s like, this type of music we do- the albums are great and you can jam the albums and stuff but you really got to see it live to get what we’re doing. When you come to our show, even if this isn’t your type of music, you’re gonna see something you aint ever seen before.
Doyle: You’ll be entertained. And this handsome young man (Brandon Pertzborn) does a drum solo, it’s to die for.
You know, I’ve seen a lot of drum solos.
Doyle: Oooohh but you haven’t seen this one!
Alex: We’re like a three ring circus, it’s like you come and everywhere you look there’s chaos going on. Just complete controlled chaos, it’s a beautiful thing.
And before I let you go I do have to ask this one thing and I know you’re gonna hate me for it-
Doyle: I already hate you.
Join the club of the people who do. But you guys, you guys as in the Misfits, you do the two Riotfest shows and it’s the greatest thing that’s ever happened and that’s it. What are the future plans; could there maybe be another Misfits reunion?
Doyle: I’m not at the liberty to say…I’m not affiliated with that organization.
Okay, well if you could, would you?
Doyle: Oh yeah. Of course.
What’s stopping that from happening?
Doyle: Not me. I’m ready to go- wait why are you looking at me like that? Is my hair fucked up?
No I’m just analyzing, taking it all in.
Doyle: Okay, cause when your eyes do that I think something’s wrong.
No no, you’re perfect. Well thank you so much for talking with me, and thank you Alex for joining us!